Yes the scene say a lot about Ais, but what the subtext supposed to convey is how badly she has been affected by what ever happened to her. The minotaur noticed her and immediately looked agitated before charging. Because she is so badly truamatized by the past and her self destructive drive to reach her goal. So obviously in time Aiz will love him back. but it will not happen until the end story. if ais just wanted to dance, then she could have dance with any of 1000 guys trying to court her. why explain more things that will not happen? If you are watching this for the romance you are dead wrong. Nothing is final, but how dare you not like Hestia! One example is during the part where Bell saved Lilli and forgave her. Both of them really enjoyed the time they spent together. I really don't have a problem if you don't like the character, I know your a harem supporter and I respect that, but I would really appreciate it if you would at least try to convey your reasons for your point of view. It is an endearing moment for him and his goddess. Aiz and Bell are sparring on the walls again. Aiz looked focused before drawing her sword. Although the detractors often have the excuse of having not read SO in which case I can understand why they don't like Ais. Due to how Bell's Skill Realis Phrase works he would have to be madly in love with Aiz all the way until he reaches Level 6. I hope that after enough time it becomes more for him because Hestia is just so much fun to watch. Ardamon wrote: I do not want to explain why it's a lot of work, I have to remember all the parts in each volume that I did not like about Aiz (although I admit that there are parts that I liked) and explain why I do not like each of the parts , in the worst case I would have to read all the volumes again and go doing it little by little, also then I have to try to express all that in English ... but well, I guess you're right, I'll have to do it, even so It will take a long time, probably create a thread at that time with all the explanation, do not expect it very soon, when I say enough time it is seriously xDD. The site awakens Aiz's love for Bell. Aiz separated from the group to deal with the last one before seeing it wander around. Bell Cranel/Aiz Wallenstein; Bell Cranel; Aiz Wallenstein; Summary. “Bell, Aiz…Please try to treat the goddess with a little more care…” Kam spoke their names gravely before giving his request rather awkwardly. In one of the episodes in season 2 bell mentions that he loves his goddess by respecting her. I agree that SO needs you to pay attention to the subtext and it's one of the things I like, but I think you get carried away by the obvious subtext that the author wants you to find and do not notice the subtext that the author does not plan, it's say when a character "does something for himself", I'm sure you've read a lot and you know that several authors mention that sometimes they do not know how the story will continue, that it depends on the character, his personality and those things, that's what You are noticing, what the author does not plan. Ever since then, Bell and Ais have had a friendly relationship with Ais assisting Bell whenever he needed help, such as before the battle with the Minotaur and before the War Game with the Apollo Familia . I highly doubt that. or those 'do not count'? Aiz and Bell are sparring on the walls again. Unfortunately her shipper tend to be just as bad at it as her detactors. The site awakens Aiz's love for Bell. Bell already loves Ais, and it is only a matter of time before she realizes the same. the book began with their encounter in the prison. the book began with their encounter in the prison. Ais was created by the author. Same with Finn I like the character because I dispise him. In a rare moment of emotional openness Bell does confess that he does want to be together with his goddess. As of now she has a friendly and positive relationship with Bell. Hi, firs of all excuse me for my horrible english, It's really bad. As of now she has a friendly and positive relationship with Bell. Bell who is advanced level 6 decide to go on journey to prove his worthy his title the [[Dawn]] Hero . I think the author is already telling us, that they will not end up together. Aiz and Bell are sparring on the walls again. In conclusion I'm not quite sure who bell really likes, it's most likely aiz (hopefully), but there is always a chance that bell could like hestia. So obviously in time Aiz will love him back. the thing with Bell and Ais will never happen is a big stupidity. "The Gale's victims had it coming and her soul wasn't stained by the blood of an inoccent so that makes her an inoccent one and besides all she did was to avenge her fallen comrades. All she could do now was rest next to him. Surely they will be together very sure about this. Ais was acting like that because she was sad he ran away, alright. The scene isn't about some rejection, it's supposed to make the reader ask a question; what happed to Ais that made it so she can't chase the "white rabbit?" Colossal in size and even capable of magic, it had attacked the party together with its legion of monsters, and upon its defeat, Aiz and the others had left immediately for their camp back on the fiftieth floor, where the remainder of their group awaited. Bell and Ais will end up together in the end as the story itself wills it. I really like Ais. The author's stated himself that you don't need to read Sword Oratoria, so he shouldn't put any characterization in there. though i interpret it as a dance between two who have interest in each other beyond just being friends. I was almost in tears. Aiz and Bell are sparring on the walls again. That's a very arbitrary statement to make without actually being able to compare all three versions. Riveria desperately tries to temper Ais's drive into something less self destructive, but she doesn't really make lasting progress. This was the original plan for my other story, All Out of Tears. The two shrank back, ashamed of themselves. Though as with most relationships it’s complicated. Ca1piggy wrote: Come along and explore Bell and Aiz's relationship as they plan to take on the OEBD together. in volume 8 of danmachi, I think that possibility was eliminated.Hestia is not going to let that happen, and she will not hesitate to use her position to prevent it from happening. so everything rotates around the two protagonists. All that I understood, it's really obvious and easy to understand, I'm mentioning what I can understand beyond normal, or what the author wants to understand, that's what I mention because in that scene is what I do not like it, I'm trying to explain why I do not like it, not the opposite, it's like "I understand why Aiz thinks that, but I do not like that". Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. Aiz has a deep growing interest in Bell's growth. It was highly compatible with Elven magic power and could be used as a staff. For one, I agree with that, but after seeing the reunion of Bell, Haruhime and Wiene, it almost ends Wiene's life just because of stubbornness, not wanting to accept that there might be good monsters for fear of stopping to pursue their objective. I really hope so, because I think it was aiz who started this whole story. The goddess’s scream echoed through the village elder’s home. On a side not, if you like Aiz, make sure to check out the Sword Oratoria manga (Or LN if you can find it). What started as a one shot is slowly becoming an epic tale. Otherwise it just seems like you don't like the character but don't want to have to say why. Bell initially had a sense of admiration for Aiz’s strength and willingness to help the weak. 1 years later he comeback with more mature and grow stronger . It was time for dinner. After read volumes 1-10 and 11-13 synopsys I did a very short summary between Ais and Bell interactions along the history. Come along and explore Bell and Aiz's relationship as they plan to take on the OEBD together. of course not. Left only one, so every shipper can discuss the same thing over and over in one place. ... Bell Cranell. preferring the serious characters in books that did not look like cartoons for example (Hestia) feed on this type of white character, but admit the need for such happy characters in books. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Because of that, Bell fell in love with her and gained the skill, Liaris Freese. Ais doesn't follow Bell because she doesn't want to, she doesn't follow him because she can't! so everything rotates around the two protagonists. I want to see harem ending. Ais said she never got the chance so she didn't. Memories of Bell's heroic feat down on the eighteenth floor went through her mind, Lefiya just knew Aiz was impressed with him after that. Come along and explore Bell and Aiz's relationship as they plan to take on the OEBD together. It's so hot that Bell fights in only his trousers and boots. I'm really tempted to close most of these pointless shipper threads, there's so many discussing the same stuff. given what was said, it is far more likely that loki and riveria think ais is interested in bell as a puppy love than simply joking around. Come along and explore Bell and Aiz's relationship as they plan to take on the OEBD together. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. It's so hot that Bell fights in only his trousers and boots. But a jealous Lefiya might have more than a little something to say about Aiz and Bell's hidden rendezvous. Not all heroes can make it through the dark without losing their light. Watch Queue Queue But personally I ship Bell and Lili. Bell loves Hestia, that's true. However that won't happen anytime soon since the story is not even close to finishing. If Bell already had Ais, it would be a big problem as things go on. Why try and explain things unceasingly when someone reads the books knows from the beginning which will be the end especially to such a heroic story. To sum it up: darker, bloodier, angst-ier. It's not gonna be polyamorous and the endgame is Bell x Haruhime but it'll come really naturally I promise and with no disrespect to Aiz, I wouldn't spend so much time developing their relationship and showing their love just for her to be an asshole and break his heart or something haha. Surely they will be together very sure about this. And when Freya gets involved, there's no telling where things might end up! Each … the thing with Bell and Ais will never happen is a big stupidity. Or what's up with that? or lefiya, or tiona, or tione. What started as a one shot is slowly becoming an epic tale. I like Ais because she doesn't follow Bell, because she tries to kill Wiene, (not because I don't like the Xenos, I do) because she has real faults that don't seem childish and idiotic to me. This is gonna be Bell x Aiz and Bell x Haruhime. It focuses on Aiz as the main character, and starts from before DanMachi. Bell have feeling love for aiz...but they are friends now but maybe in the future aiz could feel love to him...however many girls love bell and this is make hark for bell and aiz could love each other...espenshiol loki and hestia never let that happen. I mean, i'm rooting for Aiz, but Hestia is a pretty bad ass goddess. if dancing with a guy was so innocous, ais would have danced with other. For the story to suddenly change gears by that point and say "LOL Bell changed his mind, Hestia is his waifu" is incredibly stupid. With Loki Familia's expedition fast approaching, Aiz has little time to teach Bell the basics of fighting--or to sate her own curiosity about the rabbitlike boy. Now if you actually bother verbalize your "dificult to explain" view I may rescind that statement but until you do I'm going to assume you like most Ais shippers and detractors and don't understand the subtext behind the scenes. Lovesick people are also sad when they don't get their desired person. I think she also has some deeper feelings for him but she's not aware of em yet. Come along and explore Bell and Aiz's relationship as they plan to take on the OEBD together. What if Bell actually is not weak at first ? The color of his face changed quickly after that, almost as if he had suddenly realized that the person he’d begged in his half-comatose state had been none other than Aiz. What started as a one shot is slowly becoming an epic tale. the kind of quiet girl in her closed with old problems that press her with a heavy weight on her shoulders. Post on my wall which threads I should close, or you could close them yourself since you're a discussion mod, Closed every thread of this pointless discussion... lol. It's so hot that Bell fights in only his trousers and boots. I think I know what characters you are comparing with Aiz due to opinions I remember from other threads, Hestia and Lili, no ?, I completely disagree with you, the behavior of both being jealous and wanting Bell for them is normal and I do not It seems childish, even though I guess that for Aiz fans it will look like "they are getting in the way" and that's why they dislike them. 5. What started as a one shot is slowly becoming an epic tale. Surely they will be together very sure about this. Bell may think he’s in love with Aiz, but he cares so much for Hestia without question because that is just who he is. ". i'm rooting for bell x aiz, but i feel like they have no chemistry whatsoever. about the Xenos, I know what you mean and I understand, it is normal not to trust them, it is normal to want to kill them if you do not know them, especially after so many years fighting with monsters and that your family has been murdered / kidnapped (?) This video is unavailable. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. the hero always remains with the beautiful girl she saves Ais has a friendly and positive relationship with Bell, frequently helping him and even accepting a request for a dance from him at Apollo's ball, even though it was her first time dancing. I think she also has some deeper feelings for him but she's not aware of em yet. the thing with Bell and Ais will never happen is a big stupidity. End of story. Aiz Wallenstein and her Party were after minotaurs that were loose on Floor 5. Brushing shoulders with humans and demi-humans alike, Aiz reflected on the past few days. that is why i said ais would not have rejected a kiss, because i interpret that she has interest in bell beyond a friend, though she is not quite aware of what it is. Bell gained the skill, Liaris Freese and gained a new lease on life thanks to her, whereas Ais came to terms with her emotions and feelings because of him. I don't like the idea of a harem, in any way, but there are a lot of Ryu shippers after volume 14. She could see his mind was completely worn out, so she could wake him up even if she tired. lthough it would be a shame, both "I'm going to reach Aiz" and then love Hestia. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. You need to read the novels to see how bell changes in the series. Garo: The Wolf's Den Ch 1: Bell. Yeah, I really don't think you get the character. Im looking forward to that, cause i dont really like Hestia, Im grateful for every response ;). If Bell already had Ais, it would be a big problem as things go on. It's so hot that Bell fights in only his trousers and boots. I have compared some parts of the volumes in English and Spanish, I have consulted Angelo about some things that do not make sense in the English translation and of course I also compare with the wiki, do not tell me you have not noticed several things that are not They make sense or they are wrong in the English version ..., the translator that translates into Spanish makes a great effort to correct these things and make sense of them. The site awakens Aiz's love for Bell. So in the end it will be more beautiful just like a classic story where the hero (Bell) saves the princess (Ais) by the dragon or other monster. DanMachi Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. She clutched her staff even harder just thinking of those two being together in some springtime field outside somewhere holding hands! I don’t know if you already found the answer to this, but the answer in short is yes. It crosses over at all the points where Bell & Aiz interact, and I think the manga is upto the Supporter Arc so far. Bell and Aiz’s scuffle landed a blow right to Hestia’s gut. the things that I do not like I started noticing them after several readings and when I noticed one I started to notice more, I do not know how many times you have read danmachi but if you do it again, keep that in mind and maybe you will notice something of what I am referring to. Bell and Lefiya's second week together couldn't have been more of a contrast to Aiz's. Ais cares for Bell enough to help him in various situations, even going so far as to fight Ottar to reach him when he was fighting the Minotaur . Combing the story of Argount, its certain that Bell would not end up with anyone. However there are serious questions to be asked of Hestia, who knowingly leaves certain questions either open to interpretation or just states things in a way to lessen Bell’s mind burden. every time I'm more sure that if I understand it for the things you mention, I just do not agree with that being the only thing in the scenes. Its Aiz most likely. Bell however loves Aiz. That's true, but it's also the author's fault for failing to develop Ais' character properly for people to like her. - Bell is too nice to reject anyone, if he replied sincerely to hestia that he did not want to go out with her it is out of sincerity and that he has no right to lie to a "god" if he brought out the substance of these ideas he would be "Sorry girls but I have feelings for Aiz" but he will not do it, he will prove it with a single gesture "a kiss" and everyone will be "forced" to understand that Bell and Aiz are together (btw I did not specify … Bell, on the other hand, was oblivious to Aiz’s anxiety as his actions grew more and more peculiar, until finally he grasped his current situation. I am a fan of Bell and Ais relationship. Watch Queue Queue. What if he is actually a Zeus familia survivor who saved by Albert himself . I hate it when Anime/Manga/LN build up amazing relationships between the MC and the girls and then the MC picks only 1 girl and leaves all the others in the dust. So true I was this close to tears as well even though I'm a dude and I body build I love that part also love when he gets bad ass and defeats that big ass boss on the 18th floor so cool almost cried for real though when bell almost died like borderline dead also just out of curiosity is h half god since his grandad is zues? Tho, Hestia loves Bell so much, to the point we perceive it as "romantic" it's really just more of her caring so much for her child. Familia Myth, Sword Oratoria and Familia Chronicle. And at the end you can see bell and hestia sitting together on a bench, personally I didn't like it at all. There's a high chance they won't end up together. and about Finn, it's the best of SO, the truth is a great character and I like it very much. The premier community for Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? all those years at the loki familia, she must have had some opportunity IF SHE WANTED TO. and this where the another comedy adventure of Bell Cranel universe begin .
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